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  Lying In Wait At a Bed & Breakfast

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few years ago while traveling in the northeast, my wife and i stopped in new haven, connecticut, at a b&b we'd reserved for the night.

  no sooner had we unpacked and moved into the living room for tea and treats, our hosts began to talk about religion, and we learned they were jehovah's witnesses.

  i didn't mind so much, but my wife was outraged that our hosts would use their place of business as a launching point to do missionary work.

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  I have no problem reasoning with JWs and boxing them, but my wife rightfully thought it was unprofessional to do what they did and the last thing she wanted was for me to debate them on any level. (At times like that I would have loved to have been able to do a Christopher Walken imitation!) Heh!
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  Lying In Wait At a Bed & Breakfast

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few years ago while traveling in the northeast, my wife and i stopped in new haven, connecticut, at a b&b we'd reserved for the night.

  no sooner had we unpacked and moved into the living room for tea and treats, our hosts began to talk about religion, and we learned they were jehovah's witnesses.

  i didn't mind so much, but my wife was outraged that our hosts would use their place of business as a launching point to do missionary work.

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  Yep...we gave it a good review, but warned people to beware the preaching. It was otherwise a decent place. My mistake was in talking to them in the first place, while trying to be polite. That, alas, only encourages them!
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  Lying In Wait At a Bed & Breakfast

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few years ago while traveling in the northeast, my wife and i stopped in new haven, connecticut, at a b&b we'd reserved for the night.

  no sooner had we unpacked and moved into the living room for tea and treats, our hosts began to talk about religion, and we learned they were jehovah's witnesses.

  i didn't mind so much, but my wife was outraged that our hosts would use their place of business as a launching point to do missionary work.

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  A few years ago while traveling in the Northeast, my wife and I stopped in New Haven, Connecticut, at a B&B we'd reserved for the night. No sooner had we unpacked and moved into the living room for tea and treats, our hosts began to talk about religion, and we learned they were Jehovah's Witnesses. I didn't mind so much, but my wife was outraged that our hosts would use their place of business as a launching point to do missionary work.

  When they saw my wife was openly hostile to their endeavors, instead of dropping it, they sought to isolate me and ignore my wife almost as though she didn't exist. It didn't matter that she was seething, I'm sure contemplating their demise, they were now focused entirely on me. I didn't want this to go on, so I manufactured a reason to beat a retreat. And we did.

  For the rest of our time there we had to avoid our hosts and we took walks and drove around.

  Apparently this is considered okay and a great way to spread the word. But what would YOU have done? We were kind of stuck. My wife wanted to read in one of the living rooms but durst not go alone. I finally just asked our hosts to desist in religious discussion and they did, but we were surprised that they would use their B&B to fulfill their weekly stats.
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  Since Some Were Asking About The Vast Apostate Army...

  by Tuesday in

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  2. friends

  hey everyone, a couple people were asking about the november 5th, 2017 reference in the last hitler as the leader of the watchtower parody video so i figured i'd swing by and post a link to the latest recruitment video for the vast apostate army.. all my other videos are for my daughter and to help her if she ever questions religion (or jws specifically), this one however is for me.

  i always get a really big grin on my face when dustin talks about the vast apostate army and i really just want to set him off for a few videos.

  so i think this outlines the purpose of the vast apostate army and gives you a cool chorus to sing along to.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=corqwanyuos.

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  Some of these stories are astounding. Why would the Society possibly want to protect sexual predators? And why haven't some of these parents taken matters into their own hands if the Society hasn't? Are the members supposed to work strictly through the Society when these things happen? What about the cops? And if that fails, I'd think a private chat in the back alley would be in order. Or a friendly outing in the woods.
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  JW Headquarters Horror Story

  by Vidqun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i discovered this on youtube, it's quite recent:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cam-nzcaa_q.

  the woman's story sounds believable and credible, but i just don't know.

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  This has all the hallmarks of repressed memories. I have some memories of my own from about three or four years of age and there are holes big enough to drive a Mac truck through. I don't believe a word of this women's account. She's reciting the type of memories a teenager might have and it sounds like something from a grade B movie.

  
  
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  "You will never grow old in this present system of things" -- some campaign tools

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  i am approaching 76 years old.

  i can clearly recall that awake!

  statement and similar during the pre-1975 hype -- "staying alive in '75", et al.

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  The question isn't whether the leadership said it, but that if the leadership did say it, can it be reconciled with its claims to divine inspiration? I'm a bit unsure as to how the leadership's claim to divine leadership was established anyway, but given that it was established, how do JWs reconcile what was clearly false prophecy with the leadership's authority?
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  Paranormal Warning

  by Cold Steel in

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  i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

  i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

  what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

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  OrphanCrow > Yes. They are reflective anomalies of light.

  Oh, you'd be a lot of fun at a campout!

  You're right, of course. Remember that famed "face" on Mars. And the pyramids? It all went away when photographed in high resolution with better light and high resolution. Still, to say the paranormal is all imagination is also problematic. Some things, like the creaking television plastics and equalizing of pressure in water pipes, are explainable phenomena. Other things aren't so easy to explain away.

  The WTBTS overdoes religion and the occult and creates an atmosphere of fear and a means of control. Coming from a Protestant background, I loved scary movies, Halloween and monster magazines. We had fun. But in the WT community, it's used to terrorize. If you swapped toys with classmates, anything you brought home might be suspect. Some JWs avoid yard sales, gifts from non-believers and shun books about other cultures and beliefs.

  The occult has long been used to control people, partially because there's something within all of us. As long as we can explain it we can dismiss it. But regardless of how practical we all are in the daylight, let us experience something in the dark that we can't explain and we'll all react with fear. It's hardwired into all of us. You may say here and now that you wouldn't mind being locked into an abandoned prison or asylum to spend the night, but if it came down to it, we'd probably all chicken out rather than do it. Even though no one has ever been killed by a "ghost" or demonic entity, we're all hard wired by society, religion and our imaginations to fear them. Lights can flicker, pipes can creak and bumps can all be rationalized. But let the lights go out and our rationalization goes out the window!

  And no one can change that.

  
  
  
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  Paranormal Warning

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

  i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

  what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

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  Years ago when my brother and I got our first Kodak Instamatic cameras, someone told us that if we photographed glass windows in old houses that we'd see old images from the past. We tried it and with a little imagination we could see things in window reflections we swore were ghost images.

  I don't have the negatives anymore, but I decided to go back to one of our old "haunts" in Western Kentucky and photograph the house we spent a lot of time in for a photo project I was working on (non-paranormal). I went to Google to take some snapshots of an upper window and several lower windows. In one of the lower windows I got a "face" that shook even me up, but I can't locate it now. And in the photo below there are several figures that seem to be people with ties. (The figure on the right seems to be wearing a hat, and the upper photo seems to be the face of a dog.)

  
  

  Go ahead and zoom in. Are these simply my imagination? Are they reflective anomolies of light and nothing more? Or are they images of the past?

  You tell me. The mind is a fertile pot where light, ghosts and demons all vie for dominance in our psyches. BTW, I went back to Google last night and looked at the same house. This time there was nothing. I'm still going to try to find that downstairs face. That almost made me a believer!

  How about you? Do you have any weird photos from the past? Any relics that move on their own accord?

  By the way, if you have any really annoying associates in the Society, go to antique stores and buy old, used Ouji boards. Target your family and hide a board where it's not likely to be immediately found. Then find another location in the same house and hide a second one. Have a friend whose handwriting won't be recognized scribble the family's address somewhere on the box. Write it in pencil, then blot it to make it look old. Imagine how they'll react when they find a second board stuffed down in the basement! It could be fun.

  
  

  
  
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  Paranormal Warning

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

  i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

  what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

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  I've heard some weird stories coming from JWs about the paranormal. I know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much. What I am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

  Are there any urban legends that tend to circulate primarily among JWs, or have you actually experienced any strange or inexplicable things that you would label the paranormal? For those born into the religion, do you think the Society's emphasis on the paranormal or on demons affect your religious beliefs when you were young or tended to assist the Society in exerting control on your beliefs? Do you think it made you more fearful as a child or as an adult?
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  2016 Revised bethel visitors 'dress code' pamphlet?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anybody have a digital copy of the revised bethel visitors 'dress code' pamphlet from this year?.

  thanks.

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